> Dialogos is dialogue that affords a reciprocal [[Flow State]], also found in sparring and jazz, that foregrounds (adds [[Relevance]] to) a collective intelligence generating shared and emergent [[Sensemaking]]. Just as sparring and jazz train skills and perspectives one cannot generate on one's own. ![[After Socrates Episode 5 - Finite Transcendence Dr. John Vervaeke#^tirpzd]] - Heavy emphasis on transformative [[Self-transcendence]] experiences through [[Co-identification]] - It's not just ideas being changed and exchanged, but our identities - We get into dialogos through [[Socratic dialogue]] - Promotes [[Atonement]] - dia means through or across, so in a way, could dialogos be the throughline between the nothingness of the self and the nothingness of the world? - this is why it's so meaningful, such a deep affordances-based engagement beyond the propositional? - What's powerful about it is the difference in framing on how we engage in the activity - ![[After Socrates Episode 4 - Reverse Engineering the Dialectic Dr. John Vervaeke#^vl4vhr]] - Sounds like a deeply malleable time - This ability to tap into the non-propositional lets us engage with deeper [[Types of Knowing]] into the different levels of reality to cultivate [[Wisdom]] - This is what affords a deeper sense of internalization, one that affords [[Self-transcendence]] - On the significance of the second person - ![[After Socrates Episode 4 - Reverse Engineering the Dialectic Dr. John Vervaeke#^nlqzui]] - If the world is comprised of [[No-thingness]], and you need to have a similar form as something to internalize it, then we need to get into contact with the nothingness of the self as well - So this is what it means by horizontal and vertical in [[Socratic dialogue]]? Horizontal since everyone else is doing it and is helping others achieve it, then vertical is the [[Imaginal]] bridge that lets us deeply engage with this abstract truth of nothingness? Can also happen when you're the facilitator/teacher, as mentioned in [[John Vervaeke — How to Build a Life of Wisdom, Flow, and Contemplation]] ## Origins Dia comes from discipline? discipline of following the logos [[Discipline]] is following something. if you're disciplined, you follow your values. discipline means to track see what changed by the following of this ## Students - Flow state in students - Insight cascade - Help discover more parts of the map - Better implicit learning - sensemaking - Ties into competence and autonomy - Developing critical thinking skills - Prioritize insight, willing to go off script to explore - Loosen constraints to encourage more flow (no powerpoint) ## Practice - find meaning in a group not just through propositional, but also through shared experiences - loop of dialogos -> causes [[Learned ignorance]] -> facilitates more dialogos - Can be open to it by [[Humble Humility Wonder Meditation Practice]]