> Dialogos is dialogue that affords a reciprocal [[Flow State]], also found in sparring and jazz, that foregrounds (adds [[Relevance]] to) a collective intelligence generating shared and emergent [[Sensemaking]]. Just as sparring and jazz train skills and perspectives one cannot generate on one's own.
![[After Socrates Episode 5 - Finite Transcendence Dr. John Vervaeke#^tirpzd]]
- Heavy emphasis on transformative [[Self-transcendence]] experiences through [[Co-identification]]
- It's not just ideas being changed and exchanged, but our identities
- We get into dialogos through [[Socratic dialogue]]
- Promotes [[Atonement]]
- dia means through or across, so in a way, could dialogos be the throughline between the nothingness of the self and the nothingness of the world?
- this is why it's so meaningful, such a deep affordances-based engagement beyond the propositional?
- What's powerful about it is the difference in framing on how we engage in the activity
- ![[After Socrates Episode 4 - Reverse Engineering the Dialectic Dr. John Vervaeke#^vl4vhr]]
- Sounds like a deeply malleable time
- This ability to tap into the non-propositional lets us engage with deeper [[Types of Knowing]] into the different levels of reality to cultivate [[Wisdom]]
- This is what affords a deeper sense of internalization, one that affords [[Self-transcendence]]
- On the significance of the second person
- ![[After Socrates Episode 4 - Reverse Engineering the Dialectic Dr. John Vervaeke#^nlqzui]]
- If the world is comprised of [[No-thingness]], and you need to have a similar form as something to internalize it, then we need to get into contact with the nothingness of the self as well
- So this is what it means by horizontal and vertical in [[Socratic dialogue]]? Horizontal since everyone else is doing it and is helping others achieve it, then vertical is the [[Imaginal]] bridge that lets us deeply engage with this abstract truth of nothingness?
Can also happen when you're the facilitator/teacher, as mentioned in [[John Vervaeke — How to Build a Life of Wisdom, Flow, and Contemplation]]
## Origins
Dia comes from discipline?
discipline of following the logos
[[Discipline]] is following something. if you're disciplined, you follow your values.
discipline means to track see what changed by the following of this
## Students
- Flow state in students
- Insight cascade
- Help discover more parts of the map
- Better implicit learning - sensemaking
- Ties into competence and autonomy
- Developing critical thinking skills
- Prioritize insight, willing to go off script to explore
- Loosen constraints to encourage more flow (no powerpoint)
## Practice
- find meaning in a group not just through propositional, but also through shared experiences
- loop of dialogos -> causes [[Learned ignorance]] -> facilitates more dialogos
- Can be open to it by [[Humble Humility Wonder Meditation Practice]]