![[After Socrates Episode 3 - Dialectic Into Dia-Logos Dr. John Vervaeke#^c7aebu]] Inspired by [[Plato]] a psychological understanding of platos idea of form is [[Carl Jung]] [[Archetypes]] First came across from [[Awakening from the meaning crisis]] - gestalt = idos = structural whole - Our form runs events to happen, creating a form - Guided by [[Constraints]] - Think of object-oriented programming We discover a form by noticing the different aspects something has. Additionally, we can also have form emerge - you take things that don't make sense on their own, and group it into something that is intelligible: ![[After Socrates Episode 12 - Generative Grammar Dr. John Vervaeke#^p629mi]] - This reminds me of those diagrams where it goes from fact -> information (in formation, turning into this "one" form mentioned above), knowledge (a sense of knowing), insight, bla bla bla i forget them all But we can't only take into account aspects, we also need to account for our [[Perspectival knowing]] — the way we interpret things depend on our perspective. This is the process of an aspect shift (witgenstein). The famous duck and rabbit illusion have the same aspects, but they can be interpreted as two different forms based on the perspective you have. They are one but not logically identical. This is different from [[Hegelian Dialectic]] that suggests a synthesis of things to create a form, as the distinct aspects of the duck are not what make the rabbit. Most things have an infinite number of aspects. But because of our limited capacity to look at the entirety of something due to [[Combinatorial explosion]], we can only look at a finite number of aspects at once to determine form. All of these aspects create the whole of the form, which requires these aspects to have some [[Relevance]] in some way. There's a throughline that we can follow to collectively interpret a selection of aspects to see it as a particular form and make sense of it — like how notes in a song follow other songs to create a greater piece. Just like the "educe" drawing out in [[Education]], we follow this path and begin tracking the object down as mentioned in [[After Socrates Episode 1]]. But the throughline itself is not an aspect. It's invisible.